Job 17:10 vs Prov 12:15 on wisdom folly?
Compare Job 17:10 with Proverbs 12:15. How do both address wisdom and folly?

Setting the Scene

Job 17:10 drops into the middle of Job’s painful dialogue with friends who claim to speak wisdom yet only deepen his misery.

Proverbs 12:15 comes from Solomon’s collected sayings, a handbook for everyday godly living.

• Both verses weigh the same issue: Who is truly wise, and how can we spot folly?


Job 17:10—Wisdom on Trial

“ ‘But come back now, all of you, and I will not find a wise man among you.’ ” (Job 17:10)

• Job openly invites every critic to re-enter the debate; he predicts none will prove genuinely wise.

• Key takeaway: Empty talk and surface arguments cannot pass the test of real suffering.

• Job exposes a disguised folly—a self-assured, moralizing counsel that lacks true discernment (cf. Job 13:4–5).

• Wisdom, therefore, is measured by faithfulness to God’s truth and compassion, not by eloquence.


Proverbs 12:15—The Self-Assured Fool

“ ‘The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to counsel.’ ” (Proverbs 12:15)

• Folly is pictured as self-confidence divorced from accountability.

• Wisdom, by contrast, has open ears and a teachable heart (cf. Proverbs 15:22; Ecclesiastes 7:5).

• The verse defines a practical test: Do I invite counsel, or insist on having the last word?


Connecting the Dots—Shared Themes

• Self-certainty without submission to God’s truth equals folly.

– Job’s friends thought highly of their opinions; Proverbs calls that attitude foolish.

• Genuine wisdom proves itself in humility.

– Job seeks answers from God, not just human debate (Job 28:28).

– Proverbs shows the wise continually learning.

• Conversation reveals character.

Job 17:10 shames empty counselors.

Proverbs 12:15 warns that a fool’s mouth betrays an unteachable spirit (see also Proverbs 18:2).

• Both texts underscore accountability before God, not self-made standards (cf. 1 Corinthians 1:19–25).


Living It Out

• Check your circle: keep company with people who point you back to Scripture rather than echo popular opinion.

• Cultivate teachability: schedule regular moments to invite honest feedback and weigh it against the Word.

• Test every claim of wisdom in the furnace of real life and suffering, as Job did.

• Pray Psalm 25:4–5 over your decisions—“Show me Your ways, O LORD… teach me Your paths.”


Additional Scripture Insights

Proverbs 11:14—“Victory is won through many counselors.”

James 3:13, 17—Heavenly wisdom is “pure… peaceable, gentle, open to reason.”

Psalm 1:1–2—Blessing belongs to those who reject ungodly counsel and delight in God’s law.

The united verdict: true wisdom bows to God, listens before speaking, and proves itself in compassionate, faithful action; folly trusts its own loud voice and leaves suffering souls unconsoled.

How can we apply Job's discernment in Job 17:10 to our relationships today?
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