2 Samuel 19:43
"We have ten shares in the king," answered the men of Israel, "so we have more claim to David than you. Why then do you despise us? Were we not the first to speak of restoring our king?" But the men of Judah pressed even harder than the men of Israel.
We have ten shares in the king
The men of Israel refer to the ten northern tribes, emphasizing their numerical superiority over Judah. This reflects the historical division between the northern and southern tribes, which later becomes more pronounced in the split of the united monarchy into Israel and Judah. The "ten shares" symbolize their greater stake in the kingdom, suggesting a sense of entitlement and expectation of influence.

answered the men of Israel
The men of Israel are responding to the men of Judah, highlighting the ongoing tension and rivalry between the tribes. This tension is rooted in historical and cultural differences, as well as competition for political power and favor with the king.

so we have more claim to David than you
The claim to David is based on the idea of shared heritage and loyalty. The men of Israel argue that their larger numbers give them a greater right to influence David's kingship. This reflects the broader theme of tribal identity and loyalty in the Old Testament, where lineage and tribal affiliation often determined one's role and status.

Why then do you despise us?
The question reveals a sense of grievance and perceived injustice. The men of Israel feel slighted and undervalued, which is a recurring theme in the relationship between the northern and southern tribes. This sentiment foreshadows the eventual division of the kingdom after Solomon's reign.

Were we not the first to speak of restoring our king?
This statement suggests that the men of Israel were initially supportive of David's return to power after Absalom's rebellion. It highlights their early loyalty and initiative, which they feel is being overlooked or dismissed by the men of Judah. This reflects the complex dynamics of loyalty and support in the political landscape of ancient Israel.

But the men of Judah spoke more fiercely than the men of Israel
The men of Judah's fierce response indicates their strong loyalty to David, who is from the tribe of Judah. This loyalty is rooted in tribal identity and the historical significance of Judah as the leading tribe. The fierce response also underscores the deep-seated rivalry and competition between the tribes, which is a recurring theme throughout the history of Israel and Judah.

Persons / Places / Events
1. Men of Israel
Represent the ten northern tribes of Israel who felt slighted in the process of bringing King David back to Jerusalem.

2. Men of Judah
Represent the tribe of Judah, David's own tribe, who were more assertive in their claim to David.

3. King David
The central figure in this account, whose return to power is the subject of contention between the tribes.

4. Jerusalem
The capital city where David is to be restored as king.

5. The Dispute
A conflict arises between the tribes of Israel and Judah over their respective claims to King David.
Teaching Points
Unity in the Body of Christ
Just as the tribes of Israel and Judah were called to unite under King David, Christians are called to unity under Christ. Division weakens our witness and effectiveness.

Pride and Humility
The men of Israel and Judah both exhibit pride in their claims. Believers are reminded to approach conflicts with humility, seeking reconciliation over being right.

The Danger of Tribalism
The account warns against the dangers of tribalism and factionalism within the church. Our identity in Christ should supersede all other affiliations.

The Role of Leadership
David's role as a unifying figure points to the importance of godly leadership in resolving conflicts and fostering unity.

The Importance of Communication
Misunderstandings and assumptions can lead to conflict. Open and honest communication is vital in maintaining unity and understanding.
Bible Study Questions
1. How does the conflict between the men of Israel and Judah reflect challenges we face in maintaining unity within the church today?

2. In what ways can pride hinder reconciliation and unity among believers, and how can we combat this tendency?

3. How does the division between Israel and Judah foreshadow the later split of the kingdom, and what lessons can we learn from this for our own communities?

4. What practical steps can we take to ensure that our identity in Christ remains our primary identity, above any other affiliations or loyalties?

5. How can we apply the principles of godly leadership and communication seen in this passage to resolve conflicts in our own lives and communities?
Connections to Other Scriptures
1 Kings 12
The division of the kingdom under Rehoboam echoes the tribal tensions seen in 2 Samuel 19:43.

Judges 8
The conflict between Gideon and the Ephraimites over recognition and honor parallels the dispute between Israel and Judah.

Psalm 133
Highlights the beauty and importance of unity among brethren, contrasting with the division seen here.

Ephesians 4
Paul’s exhortation to maintain unity in the Spirit can be seen as a New Testament application of the need for unity among God's people.
ControversyW. E. E. Newbolt, M. A.2 Samuel 19:43
People
Abiathar, Abishai, Absalom, Amasa, Barzillai, Benjamin, Benjamites, Chimham, David, Gera, Israelites, Joab, Joseph, Mephibosheth, Saul, Shimei, Zadok, Zeruiah, Ziba
Places
Bahurim, Gilgal, Jerusalem, Jordan River, Mahanaim, Rogelim
Topics
Advice, Besides, Birth, Bring, Bringing, Claim, Contempt, David, Despise, Esteemed, Fiercer, Getting, Greater, Harsher, Harshly, Judah, Lightly, Nothing, Order, Responded, Shares, Sharper, Slight, Speak, Suggestions, Ten, Treat, Violent, Wherefore, Yet
Dictionary of Bible Themes
2 Samuel 19:43

     5932   response
     8402   claims

Library
National Sorrows and National Lessons
On the illness or the Prince of Wales. Chapel Royal, St James's, December 17th, 1871. 2 Sam. xix. 14. "He bowed the heart of all the men of Judah, even as the heart of one man." No circumstances can be more different, thank God, than those under which the heart of the men of Judah was bowed when their king commander appealed to them, and those which have, in the last few days, bowed the heart of this nation as the heart of one man. But the feeling called out in each case was the same--Loyalty,
Charles Kingsley—All Saints' Day and Other Sermons

Barzillai
BY REV. GEORGE MILLIGAN, M.A., D.D. "There is nothing," says Socrates to Cephalus in the Republic, "I like better than conversing with aged men. For I regard them as travellers who have gone a journey which I too may have to go, and of whom it is right to learn the character of the way, whether it is rugged or difficult, or smooth and easy" (p. 328 E.). It is to such an aged traveller that we are introduced in the person of Barzillai the Gileadite. And though he is one of the lesser-known characters
George Milligan—Men of the Bible; Some Lesser-Known

Samuel
Alike from the literary and the historical point of view, the book[1] of Samuel stands midway between the book of Judges and the book of Kings. As we have already seen, the Deuteronomic book of Judges in all probability ran into Samuel and ended in ch. xii.; while the story of David, begun in Samuel, embraces the first two chapters of the first book of Kings. The book of Samuel is not very happily named, as much of it is devoted to Saul and the greater part to David; yet it is not altogether inappropriate,
John Edgar McFadyen—Introduction to the Old Testament

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